Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?

Autores
Limache, Alejandro Cesar; Idelsohn, Sergio Rodolfo
Año de publicación
2006
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inglés
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The Navier-Stokes Equations written in Laplace form are often the departure point for the simulation of viscous newtonian flows and some studies of numerical stability. Researchers may not be fully aware that the “physical traction boundary conditions” are not the “natural boundary conditions” of the Laplace form of the Navier-Stokes Equations. This is not a problem per se, as long as one manages to rigurously incorporate the physical boundary conditions into the formulation. However, we have discovered that if some seemenly harmless assumptions are made, like using pseudo-tractions (i.e the natural boundary conditions of the Laplace form) or neglecting viscous terms on the free-surfaces, the resulting formulation violates a basic axiom of continuum mechanics: the principle of objectivity. In the present article we give an accurate account about these topics. We also show that unexpected differences may sometimes arise between Laplace discretizations and Divergence discretizations.
Fil: Limache, Alejandro Cesar. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Centro Científico Tecnológico Conicet - Santa Fe. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química. Universidad Nacional del Litoral. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química; Argentina
Fil: Idelsohn, Sergio Rodolfo. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Centro Científico Tecnológico Conicet - Santa Fe. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química. Universidad Nacional del Litoral. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química; Argentina
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objectivity
natural boundary conditions
Navier-Stokes equations
Finite Elementmethod,
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spelling Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?Limache, Alejandro CesarIdelsohn, Sergio Rodolfoobjectivitynatural boundary conditionsNavier-Stokes equationsFinite Elementmethod,https://purl.org/becyt/ford/2.3https://purl.org/becyt/ford/2The Navier-Stokes Equations written in Laplace form are often the departure point for the simulation of viscous newtonian flows and some studies of numerical stability. Researchers may not be fully aware that the “physical traction boundary conditions” are not the “natural boundary conditions” of the Laplace form of the Navier-Stokes Equations. This is not a problem per se, as long as one manages to rigurously incorporate the physical boundary conditions into the formulation. However, we have discovered that if some seemenly harmless assumptions are made, like using pseudo-tractions (i.e the natural boundary conditions of the Laplace form) or neglecting viscous terms on the free-surfaces, the resulting formulation violates a basic axiom of continuum mechanics: the principle of objectivity. In the present article we give an accurate account about these topics. We also show that unexpected differences may sometimes arise between Laplace discretizations and Divergence discretizations.Fil: Limache, Alejandro Cesar. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Centro Científico Tecnológico Conicet - Santa Fe. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química. Universidad Nacional del Litoral. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química; ArgentinaFil: Idelsohn, Sergio Rodolfo. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Centro Científico Tecnológico Conicet - Santa Fe. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química. Universidad Nacional del Litoral. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química; ArgentinaAsociacion Argentina de Mecanica Computacional2006-11info:eu-repo/semantics/articleinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionhttp://purl.org/coar/resource_type/c_6501info:ar-repo/semantics/articuloapplication/pdfapplication/pdfhttp://hdl.handle.net/11336/21464Limache, Alejandro Cesar; Idelsohn, Sergio Rodolfo; Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?; Asociacion Argentina de Mecanica Computacional; Mecánica Computacional; XXV; 2; 11-2006; 151-1681666-6070CONICET DigitalCONICETenginfo:eu-repo/semantics/altIdentifier/url/http://www.cimec.org.ar/ojs/index.php/mc/article/view/486info:eu-repo/semantics/openAccesshttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ar/reponame:CONICET Digital (CONICET)instname:Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas2025-09-29T10:47:45Zoai:ri.conicet.gov.ar:11336/21464instacron:CONICETInstitucionalhttp://ri.conicet.gov.ar/Organismo científico-tecnológicoNo correspondehttp://ri.conicet.gov.ar/oai/requestdasensio@conicet.gov.ar; lcarlino@conicet.gov.arArgentinaNo correspondeNo correspondeNo correspondeopendoar:34982025-09-29 10:47:45.297CONICET Digital (CONICET) - Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicasfalse
dc.title.none.fl_str_mv Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?
title Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?
spellingShingle Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?
Limache, Alejandro Cesar
objectivity
natural boundary conditions
Navier-Stokes equations
Finite Elementmethod,
title_short Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?
title_full Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?
title_fullStr Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?
title_full_unstemmed Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?
title_sort Laplace Form Of Navier-Stokes Equations: A Safe Path Or A Wrong Way?
dc.creator.none.fl_str_mv Limache, Alejandro Cesar
Idelsohn, Sergio Rodolfo
author Limache, Alejandro Cesar
author_facet Limache, Alejandro Cesar
Idelsohn, Sergio Rodolfo
author_role author
author2 Idelsohn, Sergio Rodolfo
author2_role author
dc.subject.none.fl_str_mv objectivity
natural boundary conditions
Navier-Stokes equations
Finite Elementmethod,
topic objectivity
natural boundary conditions
Navier-Stokes equations
Finite Elementmethod,
purl_subject.fl_str_mv https://purl.org/becyt/ford/2.3
https://purl.org/becyt/ford/2
dc.description.none.fl_txt_mv The Navier-Stokes Equations written in Laplace form are often the departure point for the simulation of viscous newtonian flows and some studies of numerical stability. Researchers may not be fully aware that the “physical traction boundary conditions” are not the “natural boundary conditions” of the Laplace form of the Navier-Stokes Equations. This is not a problem per se, as long as one manages to rigurously incorporate the physical boundary conditions into the formulation. However, we have discovered that if some seemenly harmless assumptions are made, like using pseudo-tractions (i.e the natural boundary conditions of the Laplace form) or neglecting viscous terms on the free-surfaces, the resulting formulation violates a basic axiom of continuum mechanics: the principle of objectivity. In the present article we give an accurate account about these topics. We also show that unexpected differences may sometimes arise between Laplace discretizations and Divergence discretizations.
Fil: Limache, Alejandro Cesar. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Centro Científico Tecnológico Conicet - Santa Fe. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química. Universidad Nacional del Litoral. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química; Argentina
Fil: Idelsohn, Sergio Rodolfo. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Centro Científico Tecnológico Conicet - Santa Fe. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química. Universidad Nacional del Litoral. Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnológico para la Industria Química; Argentina
description The Navier-Stokes Equations written in Laplace form are often the departure point for the simulation of viscous newtonian flows and some studies of numerical stability. Researchers may not be fully aware that the “physical traction boundary conditions” are not the “natural boundary conditions” of the Laplace form of the Navier-Stokes Equations. This is not a problem per se, as long as one manages to rigurously incorporate the physical boundary conditions into the formulation. However, we have discovered that if some seemenly harmless assumptions are made, like using pseudo-tractions (i.e the natural boundary conditions of the Laplace form) or neglecting viscous terms on the free-surfaces, the resulting formulation violates a basic axiom of continuum mechanics: the principle of objectivity. In the present article we give an accurate account about these topics. We also show that unexpected differences may sometimes arise between Laplace discretizations and Divergence discretizations.
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