Overcoming problems with the use of ratios as continuous characters for phylogenetic analyses
- Autores
- Mongiardino Koch, Nicolás; Soto, Ignacio Maria; Ramirez, Martin Javier
- Año de publicación
- 2015
- Idioma
- inglés
- Tipo de recurso
- artículo
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- versión publicada
- Descripción
- The use of quantitative morphometric information for phylogenetic inference has been an intensely debated topic for most of the history of phylogenetic systematics. Despite several drawbacks, the most common strategy to include this sort of data into phylogenetic studies is the use of ratios, that is quotients between morphometric variables. Here, we discuss one particular problem associated with such methodology: the fact that the often arbitrary election of which variable serves as numerator and which as denominator affects the phylogenetic outcome of the analysis. We describe the cause for such an effect, and study its implications with the use of several published data matrices. Alternative coding schemes for ratio characters result in very different phylogenetic hypotheses, an effect that may even be strong enough to affect studies that combine continuous and discrete morphological information. Some of the resulting incongruence is produced by the differences in magnitude of the continuous characters involved, although different rescaling techniques are shown to decrease, but not eliminate, the confounding effect. To eliminate such problematic effect, ratios should be either log‐transformed before their use or replaced by more effective ways to capture morphometric information.
Fil: Mongiardino Koch, Nicolás. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Ciudad Universitaria. Instituto de Ecología, Genética y Evolución de Buenos Aires. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales. Instituto de Ecología, Genética y Evolución de Buenos Aires; Argentina
Fil: Soto, Ignacio Maria. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Ciudad Universitaria. Instituto de Ecología, Genética y Evolución de Buenos Aires. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales. Instituto de Ecología, Genética y Evolución de Buenos Aires; Argentina
Fil: Ramirez, Martin Javier. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Parque Centenario. Museo Argentino de Ciencias Naturales "Bernardino Rivadavia"; Argentina - Materia
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Phylogenetics
Continuous Characters
Ratios - Nivel de accesibilidad
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Overcoming problems with the use of ratios as continuous characters for phylogenetic analyses |
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Overcoming problems with the use of ratios as continuous characters for phylogenetic analyses |
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Overcoming problems with the use of ratios as continuous characters for phylogenetic analyses |
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Overcoming problems with the use of ratios as continuous characters for phylogenetic analyses |
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Overcoming problems with the use of ratios as continuous characters for phylogenetic analyses |
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Overcoming problems with the use of ratios as continuous characters for phylogenetic analyses |
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Mongiardino Koch, Nicolás Soto, Ignacio Maria Ramirez, Martin Javier |
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Mongiardino Koch, Nicolás Soto, Ignacio Maria Ramirez, Martin Javier |
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The use of quantitative morphometric information for phylogenetic inference has been an intensely debated topic for most of the history of phylogenetic systematics. Despite several drawbacks, the most common strategy to include this sort of data into phylogenetic studies is the use of ratios, that is quotients between morphometric variables. Here, we discuss one particular problem associated with such methodology: the fact that the often arbitrary election of which variable serves as numerator and which as denominator affects the phylogenetic outcome of the analysis. We describe the cause for such an effect, and study its implications with the use of several published data matrices. Alternative coding schemes for ratio characters result in very different phylogenetic hypotheses, an effect that may even be strong enough to affect studies that combine continuous and discrete morphological information. Some of the resulting incongruence is produced by the differences in magnitude of the continuous characters involved, although different rescaling techniques are shown to decrease, but not eliminate, the confounding effect. To eliminate such problematic effect, ratios should be either log‐transformed before their use or replaced by more effective ways to capture morphometric information. Fil: Mongiardino Koch, Nicolás. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Ciudad Universitaria. Instituto de Ecología, Genética y Evolución de Buenos Aires. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales. Instituto de Ecología, Genética y Evolución de Buenos Aires; Argentina Fil: Soto, Ignacio Maria. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Ciudad Universitaria. Instituto de Ecología, Genética y Evolución de Buenos Aires. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales. Instituto de Ecología, Genética y Evolución de Buenos Aires; Argentina Fil: Ramirez, Martin Javier. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Parque Centenario. Museo Argentino de Ciencias Naturales "Bernardino Rivadavia"; Argentina |
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The use of quantitative morphometric information for phylogenetic inference has been an intensely debated topic for most of the history of phylogenetic systematics. Despite several drawbacks, the most common strategy to include this sort of data into phylogenetic studies is the use of ratios, that is quotients between morphometric variables. Here, we discuss one particular problem associated with such methodology: the fact that the often arbitrary election of which variable serves as numerator and which as denominator affects the phylogenetic outcome of the analysis. We describe the cause for such an effect, and study its implications with the use of several published data matrices. Alternative coding schemes for ratio characters result in very different phylogenetic hypotheses, an effect that may even be strong enough to affect studies that combine continuous and discrete morphological information. Some of the resulting incongruence is produced by the differences in magnitude of the continuous characters involved, although different rescaling techniques are shown to decrease, but not eliminate, the confounding effect. To eliminate such problematic effect, ratios should be either log‐transformed before their use or replaced by more effective ways to capture morphometric information. |
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