Reply to Kao and Liaw
- Autores
- Ochoa, Valeria Pilar; Erra Diaz, Fernando Alberto; Ramirez, Joaquin Ezequiel; Fentini, María Clara; Carobene, Mauricio; Geffner, Jorge Raúl; Arruvito, Maria Lourdes; Remes Lenicov, Federico
- Año de publicación
- 2022
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- inglés
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- The letter by Kao and Liaw raises some interesting observations. However, none ofthem question the results and conclusions of our study. As a first point, theyrecommend the use of fecal specimens to avoid, in their words, an uncertainty inthe accuracy of RT-PCR from respiratory samples. While it has been reported thatfecal samples might provide increased sensibility to detect SARS-CoV-2 at laterstages of infection, no evidence supports that data collected in this way were moreaccurate or relevant in terms of diagnosis or transmission.Secondly, Kao and Liaw raise the issue of the time elapsed between symptom onsetand RT-PCR test. This is a well-known confounder in viral load comparisons, andas such, it was clearly acknowledged in our study. We showed that the periodbetween symptom onset and diagnosis were not significantly different among thegroups studied. In fact, there were no cases with more than 7 days between theRT-PCR test and symptom onset in the population under 10 years old, and theproportion was negligible for the older population.Finally, we share the interest of Kao and Liaw about the possible association ofrespiratory viral loads with the expression of host genes related to mucosalimmunity. The search for these associations was not in the scope of our study, butwe agree they could be informative about the mechanisms that control respiratoryviral loads.All in all, by studying the SARS-CoV-2 viral loads of 45,318 respiratory samplesfrom COVID-19 patients measured by a validated RT-PCR method, our studyclearly demonstrates that infants younger than 6 months have higher viral loadsthan any other age group.
Fil: Ochoa, Valeria Pilar. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina
Fil: Erra Diaz, Fernando Alberto. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina
Fil: Ramirez, Joaquin Ezequiel. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina
Fil: Fentini, María Clara. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina
Fil: Carobene, Mauricio. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina
Fil: Geffner, Jorge Raúl. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina
Fil: Arruvito, Maria Lourdes. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina
Fil: Remes Lenicov, Federico. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina - Materia
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Reply to Kao and LiawOchoa, Valeria PilarErra Diaz, Fernando AlbertoRamirez, Joaquin EzequielFentini, María ClaraCarobene, MauricioGeffner, Jorge RaúlArruvito, Maria LourdesRemes Lenicov, FedericoCOVID-19SARS-COV-2RT-PCRhttps://purl.org/becyt/ford/3.1https://purl.org/becyt/ford/3The letter by Kao and Liaw raises some interesting observations. However, none ofthem question the results and conclusions of our study. As a first point, theyrecommend the use of fecal specimens to avoid, in their words, an uncertainty inthe accuracy of RT-PCR from respiratory samples. While it has been reported thatfecal samples might provide increased sensibility to detect SARS-CoV-2 at laterstages of infection, no evidence supports that data collected in this way were moreaccurate or relevant in terms of diagnosis or transmission.Secondly, Kao and Liaw raise the issue of the time elapsed between symptom onsetand RT-PCR test. This is a well-known confounder in viral load comparisons, andas such, it was clearly acknowledged in our study. We showed that the periodbetween symptom onset and diagnosis were not significantly different among thegroups studied. In fact, there were no cases with more than 7 days between theRT-PCR test and symptom onset in the population under 10 years old, and theproportion was negligible for the older population.Finally, we share the interest of Kao and Liaw about the possible association ofrespiratory viral loads with the expression of host genes related to mucosalimmunity. The search for these associations was not in the scope of our study, butwe agree they could be informative about the mechanisms that control respiratoryviral loads.All in all, by studying the SARS-CoV-2 viral loads of 45,318 respiratory samplesfrom COVID-19 patients measured by a validated RT-PCR method, our studyclearly demonstrates that infants younger than 6 months have higher viral loadsthan any other age group.Fil: Ochoa, Valeria Pilar. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; ArgentinaFil: Erra Diaz, Fernando Alberto. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; ArgentinaFil: Ramirez, Joaquin Ezequiel. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; ArgentinaFil: Fentini, María Clara. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; ArgentinaFil: Carobene, Mauricio. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; ArgentinaFil: Geffner, Jorge Raúl. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; ArgentinaFil: Arruvito, Maria Lourdes. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; ArgentinaFil: Remes Lenicov, Federico. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. 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Ochoa, Valeria Pilar Erra Diaz, Fernando Alberto Ramirez, Joaquin Ezequiel Fentini, María Clara Carobene, Mauricio Geffner, Jorge Raúl Arruvito, Maria Lourdes Remes Lenicov, Federico |
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The letter by Kao and Liaw raises some interesting observations. However, none ofthem question the results and conclusions of our study. As a first point, theyrecommend the use of fecal specimens to avoid, in their words, an uncertainty inthe accuracy of RT-PCR from respiratory samples. While it has been reported thatfecal samples might provide increased sensibility to detect SARS-CoV-2 at laterstages of infection, no evidence supports that data collected in this way were moreaccurate or relevant in terms of diagnosis or transmission.Secondly, Kao and Liaw raise the issue of the time elapsed between symptom onsetand RT-PCR test. This is a well-known confounder in viral load comparisons, andas such, it was clearly acknowledged in our study. We showed that the periodbetween symptom onset and diagnosis were not significantly different among thegroups studied. In fact, there were no cases with more than 7 days between theRT-PCR test and symptom onset in the population under 10 years old, and theproportion was negligible for the older population.Finally, we share the interest of Kao and Liaw about the possible association ofrespiratory viral loads with the expression of host genes related to mucosalimmunity. The search for these associations was not in the scope of our study, butwe agree they could be informative about the mechanisms that control respiratoryviral loads.All in all, by studying the SARS-CoV-2 viral loads of 45,318 respiratory samplesfrom COVID-19 patients measured by a validated RT-PCR method, our studyclearly demonstrates that infants younger than 6 months have higher viral loadsthan any other age group. Fil: Ochoa, Valeria Pilar. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina Fil: Erra Diaz, Fernando Alberto. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina Fil: Ramirez, Joaquin Ezequiel. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina Fil: Fentini, María Clara. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina Fil: Carobene, Mauricio. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina Fil: Geffner, Jorge Raúl. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina Fil: Arruvito, Maria Lourdes. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina Fil: Remes Lenicov, Federico. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Oficina de Coordinación Administrativa Houssay. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida. Universidad de Buenos Aires. Facultad de Medicina. Instituto de Investigaciones Biomédicas en Retrovirus y Sida; Argentina |
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The letter by Kao and Liaw raises some interesting observations. However, none ofthem question the results and conclusions of our study. As a first point, theyrecommend the use of fecal specimens to avoid, in their words, an uncertainty inthe accuracy of RT-PCR from respiratory samples. While it has been reported thatfecal samples might provide increased sensibility to detect SARS-CoV-2 at laterstages of infection, no evidence supports that data collected in this way were moreaccurate or relevant in terms of diagnosis or transmission.Secondly, Kao and Liaw raise the issue of the time elapsed between symptom onsetand RT-PCR test. This is a well-known confounder in viral load comparisons, andas such, it was clearly acknowledged in our study. We showed that the periodbetween symptom onset and diagnosis were not significantly different among thegroups studied. In fact, there were no cases with more than 7 days between theRT-PCR test and symptom onset in the population under 10 years old, and theproportion was negligible for the older population.Finally, we share the interest of Kao and Liaw about the possible association ofrespiratory viral loads with the expression of host genes related to mucosalimmunity. The search for these associations was not in the scope of our study, butwe agree they could be informative about the mechanisms that control respiratoryviral loads.All in all, by studying the SARS-CoV-2 viral loads of 45,318 respiratory samplesfrom COVID-19 patients measured by a validated RT-PCR method, our studyclearly demonstrates that infants younger than 6 months have higher viral loadsthan any other age group. |
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