Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation

Autores
Berjano, Enrique; Irastorza, Ramiro Miguel
Año de publicación
2024
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inglés
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artículo
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versión publicada
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We recently read the article entitled “Impact of dispersive patch electrode positioning on safety and efficacy of radiofrequency catheter ablation” by Futyma, Zarębski and Sauer. The authors state that the position of the patch has an impact in terms of RF lesion size. Specifically, they state that: “When the dispersive patches are placed incorrectly, it can lead to suboptimal lesion formation and potentially increase the risk of adverse events.” However, they do not provide any reference to this, and in fact there is not currently enough clinical evidence in the literature to allow such a statement.In our previous studies based on computational modeling, we did not observe asignificant clinical impact of the different positions of the dispersive electrode on lesion size. In the article by Futyma et al, the authors cite our two previous works and emphasize some of the limitations of our methodology in order to cast doubt on our findings. However, contrary to what the authors claim, 1) cardiac lesion depths were really calculated considering the impact on extracardiac structures (lung, connective, bonny structures, etc.), and 2) the conductivity and resistivity of lungs were taken from a well recognized database, which is exactly the same as the one used by other authors of a recent modeling work whose conclusion is apparently in line with what Futyma et al claim. It seems that for the authors in silico modeling is an appropriate toolonly when the results agree with their point of view.Other limitations mentioned by the authors, such as 1) the impact of cumulative thermal injury of the oesophagus from multiple sequential and overlapping RF applications, 2) the fluctuations in oesophageal resistivity which can lead to higher current density in the oesophageal region, and 3) the fact that atrio-oesophageal fistula formation is multifactorial, available in silico models may not provide a definitive estimation of RF current pathways in view of DPE positioning, simply have very little to do with the impact of DPE positioning on lesion size.The authors conclude that the position of dispersive patch during RF catheter ablation is a critical factor that affects safe and effective lesion formation. Our conclusion after reading the article is that, as stated in the journal section, this is simply their point of view, and that there is not enough scientific evidence to show that repositioning the DPE in general allows modulating the size of the RF lesion.
Fil: Berjano, Enrique. Universidad Politécnica de Valencia; España
Fil: Irastorza, Ramiro Miguel. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Centro Científico Tecnológico Conicet - La Plata. Instituto de Física de Líquidos y Sistemas Biológicos. Universidad Nacional de La Plata. Facultad de Ciencias Exactas. Instituto de Física de Líquidos y Sistemas Biológicos; Argentina. Universidad Tecnológica Nacional. Facultad Regional La Plata. Departamento de Ingeniería Mecánica; Argentina. Universidad Politécnica de Valencia; España
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RADIOFREQUENCY ABLATION
COMPUTATIONAL MODELING
CARDIAC ABLATION
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spelling Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablationBerjano, EnriqueIrastorza, Ramiro MiguelRADIOFREQUENCY ABLATIONCOMPUTATIONAL MODELINGCARDIAC ABLATIONhttps://purl.org/becyt/ford/2.11https://purl.org/becyt/ford/2We recently read the article entitled “Impact of dispersive patch electrode positioning on safety and efficacy of radiofrequency catheter ablation” by Futyma, Zarębski and Sauer. The authors state that the position of the patch has an impact in terms of RF lesion size. Specifically, they state that: “When the dispersive patches are placed incorrectly, it can lead to suboptimal lesion formation and potentially increase the risk of adverse events.” However, they do not provide any reference to this, and in fact there is not currently enough clinical evidence in the literature to allow such a statement.In our previous studies based on computational modeling, we did not observe asignificant clinical impact of the different positions of the dispersive electrode on lesion size. In the article by Futyma et al, the authors cite our two previous works and emphasize some of the limitations of our methodology in order to cast doubt on our findings. However, contrary to what the authors claim, 1) cardiac lesion depths were really calculated considering the impact on extracardiac structures (lung, connective, bonny structures, etc.), and 2) the conductivity and resistivity of lungs were taken from a well recognized database, which is exactly the same as the one used by other authors of a recent modeling work whose conclusion is apparently in line with what Futyma et al claim. It seems that for the authors in silico modeling is an appropriate toolonly when the results agree with their point of view.Other limitations mentioned by the authors, such as 1) the impact of cumulative thermal injury of the oesophagus from multiple sequential and overlapping RF applications, 2) the fluctuations in oesophageal resistivity which can lead to higher current density in the oesophageal region, and 3) the fact that atrio-oesophageal fistula formation is multifactorial, available in silico models may not provide a definitive estimation of RF current pathways in view of DPE positioning, simply have very little to do with the impact of DPE positioning on lesion size.The authors conclude that the position of dispersive patch during RF catheter ablation is a critical factor that affects safe and effective lesion formation. Our conclusion after reading the article is that, as stated in the journal section, this is simply their point of view, and that there is not enough scientific evidence to show that repositioning the DPE in general allows modulating the size of the RF lesion.Fil: Berjano, Enrique. Universidad Politécnica de Valencia; EspañaFil: Irastorza, Ramiro Miguel. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Centro Científico Tecnológico Conicet - La Plata. Instituto de Física de Líquidos y Sistemas Biológicos. Universidad Nacional de La Plata. Facultad de Ciencias Exactas. Instituto de Física de Líquidos y Sistemas Biológicos; Argentina. Universidad Tecnológica Nacional. Facultad Regional La Plata. Departamento de Ingeniería Mecánica; Argentina. Universidad Politécnica de Valencia; EspañaOxford University Press2024-12info:eu-repo/semantics/articleinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionhttp://purl.org/coar/resource_type/c_6501info:ar-repo/semantics/articuloapplication/pdfapplication/pdfapplication/pdfhttp://hdl.handle.net/11336/257542Berjano, Enrique; Irastorza, Ramiro Miguel; Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation; Oxford University Press; Europace; 27; 1; 12-2024; 1-11099-5129CONICET DigitalCONICETenginfo:eu-repo/semantics/altIdentifier/url/https://academic.oup.com/europace/advance-article/doi/10.1093/europace/euae296/7923957info:eu-repo/semantics/altIdentifier/doi/10.1093/europace/euae296info:eu-repo/semantics/openAccesshttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ar/reponame:CONICET Digital (CONICET)instname:Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas2025-09-03T09:59:06Zoai:ri.conicet.gov.ar:11336/257542instacron:CONICETInstitucionalhttp://ri.conicet.gov.ar/Organismo científico-tecnológicoNo correspondehttp://ri.conicet.gov.ar/oai/requestdasensio@conicet.gov.ar; lcarlino@conicet.gov.arArgentinaNo correspondeNo correspondeNo correspondeopendoar:34982025-09-03 09:59:06.958CONICET Digital (CONICET) - Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicasfalse
dc.title.none.fl_str_mv Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation
title Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation
spellingShingle Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation
Berjano, Enrique
RADIOFREQUENCY ABLATION
COMPUTATIONAL MODELING
CARDIAC ABLATION
title_short Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation
title_full Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation
title_fullStr Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation
title_full_unstemmed Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation
title_sort Positioning of the dispersive electrode and its effect on the safety and efficacy of radiofrequency ablation
dc.creator.none.fl_str_mv Berjano, Enrique
Irastorza, Ramiro Miguel
author Berjano, Enrique
author_facet Berjano, Enrique
Irastorza, Ramiro Miguel
author_role author
author2 Irastorza, Ramiro Miguel
author2_role author
dc.subject.none.fl_str_mv RADIOFREQUENCY ABLATION
COMPUTATIONAL MODELING
CARDIAC ABLATION
topic RADIOFREQUENCY ABLATION
COMPUTATIONAL MODELING
CARDIAC ABLATION
purl_subject.fl_str_mv https://purl.org/becyt/ford/2.11
https://purl.org/becyt/ford/2
dc.description.none.fl_txt_mv We recently read the article entitled “Impact of dispersive patch electrode positioning on safety and efficacy of radiofrequency catheter ablation” by Futyma, Zarębski and Sauer. The authors state that the position of the patch has an impact in terms of RF lesion size. Specifically, they state that: “When the dispersive patches are placed incorrectly, it can lead to suboptimal lesion formation and potentially increase the risk of adverse events.” However, they do not provide any reference to this, and in fact there is not currently enough clinical evidence in the literature to allow such a statement.In our previous studies based on computational modeling, we did not observe asignificant clinical impact of the different positions of the dispersive electrode on lesion size. In the article by Futyma et al, the authors cite our two previous works and emphasize some of the limitations of our methodology in order to cast doubt on our findings. However, contrary to what the authors claim, 1) cardiac lesion depths were really calculated considering the impact on extracardiac structures (lung, connective, bonny structures, etc.), and 2) the conductivity and resistivity of lungs were taken from a well recognized database, which is exactly the same as the one used by other authors of a recent modeling work whose conclusion is apparently in line with what Futyma et al claim. It seems that for the authors in silico modeling is an appropriate toolonly when the results agree with their point of view.Other limitations mentioned by the authors, such as 1) the impact of cumulative thermal injury of the oesophagus from multiple sequential and overlapping RF applications, 2) the fluctuations in oesophageal resistivity which can lead to higher current density in the oesophageal region, and 3) the fact that atrio-oesophageal fistula formation is multifactorial, available in silico models may not provide a definitive estimation of RF current pathways in view of DPE positioning, simply have very little to do with the impact of DPE positioning on lesion size.The authors conclude that the position of dispersive patch during RF catheter ablation is a critical factor that affects safe and effective lesion formation. Our conclusion after reading the article is that, as stated in the journal section, this is simply their point of view, and that there is not enough scientific evidence to show that repositioning the DPE in general allows modulating the size of the RF lesion.
Fil: Berjano, Enrique. Universidad Politécnica de Valencia; España
Fil: Irastorza, Ramiro Miguel. Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas. Centro Científico Tecnológico Conicet - La Plata. Instituto de Física de Líquidos y Sistemas Biológicos. Universidad Nacional de La Plata. Facultad de Ciencias Exactas. Instituto de Física de Líquidos y Sistemas Biológicos; Argentina. Universidad Tecnológica Nacional. Facultad Regional La Plata. Departamento de Ingeniería Mecánica; Argentina. Universidad Politécnica de Valencia; España
description We recently read the article entitled “Impact of dispersive patch electrode positioning on safety and efficacy of radiofrequency catheter ablation” by Futyma, Zarębski and Sauer. The authors state that the position of the patch has an impact in terms of RF lesion size. Specifically, they state that: “When the dispersive patches are placed incorrectly, it can lead to suboptimal lesion formation and potentially increase the risk of adverse events.” However, they do not provide any reference to this, and in fact there is not currently enough clinical evidence in the literature to allow such a statement.In our previous studies based on computational modeling, we did not observe asignificant clinical impact of the different positions of the dispersive electrode on lesion size. In the article by Futyma et al, the authors cite our two previous works and emphasize some of the limitations of our methodology in order to cast doubt on our findings. However, contrary to what the authors claim, 1) cardiac lesion depths were really calculated considering the impact on extracardiac structures (lung, connective, bonny structures, etc.), and 2) the conductivity and resistivity of lungs were taken from a well recognized database, which is exactly the same as the one used by other authors of a recent modeling work whose conclusion is apparently in line with what Futyma et al claim. It seems that for the authors in silico modeling is an appropriate toolonly when the results agree with their point of view.Other limitations mentioned by the authors, such as 1) the impact of cumulative thermal injury of the oesophagus from multiple sequential and overlapping RF applications, 2) the fluctuations in oesophageal resistivity which can lead to higher current density in the oesophageal region, and 3) the fact that atrio-oesophageal fistula formation is multifactorial, available in silico models may not provide a definitive estimation of RF current pathways in view of DPE positioning, simply have very little to do with the impact of DPE positioning on lesion size.The authors conclude that the position of dispersive patch during RF catheter ablation is a critical factor that affects safe and effective lesion formation. Our conclusion after reading the article is that, as stated in the journal section, this is simply their point of view, and that there is not enough scientific evidence to show that repositioning the DPE in general allows modulating the size of the RF lesion.
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